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Lead with a Story

by Paul Smith

Lead with a Story empowers leaders to use storytelling as a tool to inspire and influence their teams. Through real-world examples, discover how narratives can transform company culture, enhance customer relations, and drive change. This guide offers practical insights into crafting stories that captivate and motivate, making it an essential resource for effective leadership.

Speaking the Language That Gets You Hired

When you walk into a job interview, do you know what words will make hiring managers lean forward instead of tune out? Tony Beshara’s Powerful Phrases for Successful Interviews argues that interviews are emotional transactions disguised as logical discussions. The person who wins isn’t necessarily the most qualified—it’s the one who communicates competence, likability, and fit through specific, well-crafted phrases. Beshara, one of America’s most successful recruiters and a regular on the Dr. Phil show, contends that mastering the language of persuasion is a job hunter’s most underrated skill.

Hiring decisions, Beshara explains, hinge on four unspoken questions every interviewer asks: Can you do the job? Do we like you? Are you a risk? Can we work the money out? Every word you say must reassure the interviewer on those fronts. He presents more than 400 phrases designed to do exactly that—phrases to open conversations, close interviews, defuse objections, and build rapport from the first contact to the job offer negotiation.

Why Words Matter More Than Credentials

While many candidates focus on résumés and experience, Beshara reminds you that interviews are quick, emotional impressions. He cites a McGill University study showing interviewers often decide within four minutes whether they’ll hire someone. The decision is made not with logic but with what psychologists call motivated reasoning—a fast, instinctive response to tone, phrasing, and personality. Because of this, words that show empathy, confidence, and professionalism often override credentials. When you can frame your answers powerfully, you help hiring authorities imagine you succeeding in their world.

It’s not enough to be competent; you must be remembered. A bland “Tell me about yourself” answer won’t do. Instead, strong candidates deliberately guide conversations using Beshara’s formulaic, yet authentic phrasing. These phrases direct attention to results, teamwork, reliability, and emotional intelligence—all qualities companies crave but rarely confirm on paper.

The Job Search as Sales Process

Beshara approaches interviewing as a form of sales. You’re not just selling skills—you’re selling an audience with someone who has authority and “pain,” meaning an urgent hiring need. From the first call to the final offer, each phrase acts like a miniature pitch. For instance, when making cold calls to potential employers, he suggests saying: “I understand the kind of person you want probably doesn’t have an opening right now. I’d still like fifteen minutes of your time because I’m the kind of performer you’ll want to know when that opening occurs.” Simple, assertive, and forward-looking—phrases like this bypass rejection and sell your value.

The book reframes every step of the search—from approaching contacts, crafting emails, leaving voicemails, and handling follow-up—to fit a sales mindset. Each interaction builds momentum through genuine persistence and polished communication. Beshara teaches you to replace vague self-descriptions with what he calls the Features–Advantages–Benefits (FAB) method: identify a concrete feature of your experience, explain its advantage, and connect it to a direct benefit for the employer. This business-style framing turns talking points into persuasive evidence.

Facing Rejection and Risk

According to Beshara, the biggest obstacle isn’t rejection—it’s the fear of it. Like a salesperson, you must expect to hear “no” often before “yes.” He estimates it can take 75 to 100 calls to land an interview. Instead of treating those setbacks as personal, he advises tracking calls, following up consistently, and viewing the process as numbers-driven. Hiring managers, meanwhile, fear their own kind of risk: making a poor hire that damages their reputation. You must counter that fear by minimizing perceived weaknesses and emphasizing steadiness, results, and enthusiasm.

In later chapters, Beshara provides detailed phrasing for sensitive issues—like gaps in employment, being fired, low grades, age concerns, or career changes. Each potential red flag can be turned into a positive with strategic wording. For example, answering concerns about short job stints with “That’s the very reason you should hire me—I can’t afford another short stint” transforms vulnerability into commitment. His psychological concept of “changing the base” teaches you to pivot negatives into assets, keeping interviews upbeat and forward-focused.

From First Contact to Job Offer

The structure of the book mirrors the job journey: starting with how to get interviews (Chapter 1), writing powerful emails and cover letters (Chapter 2), presenting yourself convincingly (Chapters 3–5), handling difficult questions (Chapter 6), acing follow-up interviews (Chapter 7), tailoring responses to specific fields (Chapter 8), and negotiating offers (Chapter 9). Each stage carries its own “power phrases”—short sentences that make a professional impression while managing expectations gracefully. When closing interviews, for instance, your strongest move is direct: “How do I stack up with the other candidates?” and “What do I need to do to get the job?” These show confidence without arrogance and often distinguish you from timid competitors.

Beshara’s core message is this: interviewing well isn’t an innate gift—it’s a skill of preparation, verbal precision, and courage. Practice these phrases until they flow naturally, and you’ll turn nerve-wracking interactions into confident conversations. Whether you’re returning to work after a layoff or aiming for a promotion, your phrasing shifts perception—from uncertain applicant to decisive professional. As Dr. Phil writes in his foreword, “Saying the right thing in just the right way can turn a ho-hum interview into a home run.” And for Beshara, those home runs start with knowing what to say—and saying it powerfully.


Turning the Interview Into a Sales Conversation

Tony Beshara insists that job hunting is not about waiting—it’s about selling. The most effective job seekers treat each conversation as a mini sales call. Just as great salespeople address customers’ pain points, your task is to discover the hiring manager’s pain: the urgent need behind the open position. If you can show how you relieve that pain, you’re already halfway to an offer.

Finding the Right Buyer

You can’t sell the idea of hiring you unless you’re talking to the right person. Beshara stresses that you must reach someone with both authority and pain—authority to hire and pain demanding action. This means skipping HR departments, which exist to screen people out, not in. Instead, contact department heads, controllers, or vice presidents with measurable needs. If you don’t know who that is, he offers a simple script: “Who’s your controller?” or “Who manages your IT group?” Then call them directly. This assertiveness positions you as a confident professional, not a passive applicant.

Selling the Meeting, Not the Job

The purpose of a cold call isn’t to get hired. It’s to get in front of someone. Beshara draws a sharp distinction between selling a job and selling an interview. Even companies without open positions may agree to meet a top performer if you approach them well. One powerful phrase: “I’m the kind of professional you’d want to know—either to replace your weakest link or to be aware of when an opening occurs.” This psychological repositioning—offering value instead of asking for favors—makes hiring authorities more receptive.

He also teaches a subtle negotiation trick borrowed from sales: the “minor choice, major decision” close. Offer two time options for meetings (“Would tomorrow morning or tomorrow afternoon be better?”) rather than open-ended questions (“Could we schedule a meeting?”). Humans prefer choosing over deciding, and this tiny behavioral shift often doubles response rates.

Building Credibility with Features–Advantages–Benefits

Beshara’s Features–Advantages–Benefits (FAB) model structures your pitch the way sales professionals frame product value. A feature is an attribute of you (“I have fifteen years of mechanical engineering experience”). An advantage explains what that means (“I’ve worked my way up in two organizations from entry level to senior engineer”). A benefit tells the employer what’s in it for them (“You gain a stable long-term employee with proven performance”). By combining all three in one paragraph, you create a persuasive micro-story that highlights results rather than résumé buzzwords.

This approach echoes Daniel Pink’s advice in To Sell Is Human, where he argues that everyone is in sales—and the essence of sales is naming how your skills benefit others. Beshara simply applies that idea to career management. You’re not selling yourself; you’re showing the transformation you bring.

Persistence as Professionalism

Cold calling is emotionally tough. You’ll get rejected in seconds, ignored through voicemail, or asked to “just send your résumé.” Beshara reframes persistence as respect: people call you back because they admire your tenacity. He recommends leaving up to ten messages for the same person—something most candidates would never consider—because “when even a slight pain of needing someone arises, your voice message is at the top of their mind.” Time your follow-ups strategically and track every interaction. Just as sales managers measure pipelines, you should measure your call lists, callbacks, and conversions.

Ultimately, sales thinking gives you control. Job searching becomes a disciplined campaign rather than emotional hoping. You build momentum, maintain confidence, and transform each call into another opportunity to clarify your message. For Beshara, the difference between the average applicant and the successful one isn’t luck—it’s the power to sell an interview with conviction, clarity, and the right words.


Mastering the First Interview

The first interview isn’t a test—it’s a performance. Tony Beshara calls it a staged, contrived event. You’re not being evaluated only for skills but for how well you can connect emotionally while communicating confidence and enthusiasm. Every question serves one hidden goal: the hiring manager wants assurance that you’re safe, likable, and competent. Your job is to make that easy for them to believe.

Lead with Tangible Traits

Instead of waiting for questions, Beshara suggests opening boldly: “Mr. Smith, I’m here to share with you why you should hire me.” Then list ten to twelve descriptors of your work ethic—words like dependable, committed, hardworking, disciplined, passionate. These aren’t clichés; they demonstrate self-awareness and energy. Hiring authorities want reassurance that you possess what he calls “the intangible traits of success.” You’re not just talking about past roles—you’re communicating who they’d see walking into the office every day.

Tell Stories That Prove Value

People remember stories, not summaries. Beshara’s first interview technique follows a three-part rhythm: explain where you’ve worked, describe what you did, and share a short story of success or challenge. For instance, he once coached an engineer who mentioned growing up on a chicken farm and how toughness learned there shaped his work habits. That story made him memorable even compared with other qualified candidates. When told authentically, stories turn facts into images—psychological anchors that stick long after resumes blur together.

Every story must answer the interviewer’s question “How will this help me?” Link your experiences directly to company priorities. If they value efficiency, tell a story about reorganizing a process to save time; if teamwork matters, describe mediating a conflict successfully. Each phrase must connect your past experiences to future performance.

Ask Courageous Closing Questions

Perhaps Beshara’s most famous advice is the “courageous close.” At the end of every interview, use two questions: “How do I stack up with the other candidates you’ve interviewed?” and “What do I need to do to get the job?” Few candidates ever ask them, but they change everything. They signal confidence, clarify expectations, and force constructive feedback. In one true story, a hiring manager interviewing seven applicants admitted only Beshara’s candidate asked those questions—and that boldness made her memorable enough to win the role despite not being the most qualified.

These closing phrases calm the employer’s uncertainty and make you stand out as decisive. They’re essentially a respectful request for commitment—the same psychological principle salespeople use to finalize deals.

Follow Up Fast and Smart

Right after the interview, write an email that thanks the interviewer but also reinforces value. Restate the top needs they mentioned and match each with a concrete example from your past. For example: “You said you needed someone experienced managing supply chains—I reorganized our delivery system to cut late shipments by 30%.” Keep it succinct, professional, and numerical. Quantifiable follow-ups demonstrate clarity and professionalism better than generic gratitude.

Finally, call back the next day. Even if you can’t speak directly, leave a short voicemail reinforcing interest and reminding them of one strength. Persistence and precision combine to produce results. Interviews aren’t just about performing—they’re about ensuring you’re remembered after you walk out the door.


Making Your Résumé Speak

In the digital era, your résumé isn’t paper—it’s persuasion. Beshara dedicates a full chapter to increasing the odds your résumé gets read, and his core insight is simple: treat every email as an advertisement. Your subject line, your opening line, and your tone must sell curiosity before competence.

The Subject Line as a Headline

Hiring managers skim hundreds of emails daily; many never open yours. To survive that first filter, write subject lines that mix professionalism with intrigue. Instead of “Application for Marketing Manager,” try “150% Performer Ready to Boost Your Brand” or “Personally referred by John Smith.” If you can make the phrase emotional—showing motivation, passion, or success—you win attention. Beshara even suggests using short quotes or Latin aphorisms with explanations (“Carpe Diem: Seize new growth as your next sales leader”). They spark curiosity without sounding gimmicky.

Short, Personal, and Pain-Focused

Emails—and cover letters—should never tell your life story. They should address the employer’s pain directly. For instance: “I understand your company is reorganizing under Chapter 11. I’ve helped three firms navigate successful restructures; my résumé is attached.” Tie each message to a concrete company event or goal: promotions, expansions, or market challenges. This transforms your outreach from self-centered request to relevant solution. Mark Zuckerberg’s design principle for communication—“seamless, informal, immediate, simple”—perfectly describes Beshara’s recommended tone.

Numbers Tell, Stories Sell

Quantifiable statements—“grew revenue by 40%,” “managed a team of ten,” “cut expenses by 25%”—act as proof. Yet Beshara also combines numbers with brief narratives, because numbers show competence, stories show personality. Attach value-affirming documents like performance reviews or professional assessments. These small extras substantiate your claims and differentiate you among identical résumés. One candidate he coached added results from leadership aptitude tests and saw interview requests skyrocket.

Finish with an Action Line

Every message should end with a gentle close: “When can we get together?” or “I will call tomorrow at 3PM to arrange a meeting.” That proactive ending projects energy and takes initiative—the ultimate hiring trait. A résumé may summarize your career, but it should speak the language of opportunity. The secret isn’t in the format—it’s in the phrasing that makes your story irresistible to open, read, and remember.


Convincing Employers You Can Do the Job

At the heart of every interview lies one silent question: Can you do the job? Beshara argues that while technical ability counts for about 20% of hiring success, it’s the first 20%. You won’t pass go without convincing the employer you’re capable. Every subsequent question—about personality, risk, or pay—only comes if you clear this threshold. So how do you communicate capability convincingly?

Translate Skills into Stories

Avoid jargon. Many interviewers nod politely while secretly lost. They’re thinking about their next question before you finish answering the current one. Beshara advises explaining your work “in terms a high-school senior can understand.” Instead of title-centric language, describe outcomes: “I designed a new software module that cut bug reports by 30%.” Clarity signals mastery more than technical vocabulary ever could.

Show Judgment, Not Perfection

When asked about mistakes, don’t deny them. Demonstrate reflection. For instance: “A valued team member left because I failed to notice her dissatisfaction early enough. I learned to check in regularly.” This turns vulnerability into wisdom. Similarly, when describing decision-making, emphasize process: gathering facts, consulting mentors, then acting decisively. These stories communicate judgment—one of the hardest qualities to measure but most prized in leadership.

Display Work Ethic Through Behavior

Interviewers look for reliability more than brilliance. Beshara recommends framing work ethic through action verbs and daily habits: arriving early, volunteering for challenges, learning continuously. When asked “Can you work overtime?” the powerful phrase is: “I do whatever it takes to get the job done.” Concise, confident, and unhesitating answers create a visceral impression of dedication.

Proving It in Quantities

Use numbers to validate your confidence. Whether it’s percent of quota achieved or budget managed, quantifiable evidence reassures nervous hiring authorities. Salespeople emphasize quotas; engineers detail deadlines and efficiency ratios. The key is connecting data to benefit—how those numbers helped teams succeed or saved money. That linkage transforms statistics into persuasive context.

In essence, demonstrating ability isn’t about claiming competence—it’s about making others feel your competence through clear stories, calm confidence, and measurable results. When you answer in that way, interviewers stop worrying “Can you handle it?” and begin envisioning “When can you start?”


Dealing With Problems in Your Background

Few authors address the toughest interview questions as frankly as Beshara. Chapter 6 confronts what every candidate dreads—awkward topics like being fired, gaps in work history, career changes, or personal setbacks. Here, his advice blends psychology and language. Every answer must reduce perceived risk and rebalance the equation with benefits.

Understanding the Employer’s Fear

A hiring manager’s biggest fear is reputation damage. Each employee represents a gamble. For them, your past uncertainty equals future threat. That’s why Beshara cautions that job changes, self-employment, or long unemployment often look risky—even if they feel sensible to you. “Most employers look at the glass as half-empty,” he writes. Your strategy is to show stability and self-awareness that convert those doubts into confidence.

Changing the Base

His signature tactic is called changing the base—reframing negatives as positives. For example, when questioned about short stays, answer: “That’s exactly why you should hire me—I need to prove stability.” When asked about running your own business: “Every leader answers to customers, suppliers, attorneys, and regulators. I learned accountability from every direction.” With one phrase, you shift the frame from liability to maturity.

Common Tough Situations

  • Being Fired: Use neutrals and positives: “It was time for the company and me to make a change.” Then pivot to what you learned or your next success.
  • Lack of Degree: Emphasize performance: “Every role I’ve held required a degree on paper, yet I excelled beyond expectations.”
  • Long Unemployment: Admit challenge without blame: “It’s been tougher than expected; competition is fierce, but I’ve grown resilient.”
  • Overqualification: Reassure longevity: “I’ve thrived in roles like this before and see it as a long-term opportunity, not a step down.”

The Psychology of Reassurance

Beshara sums it up simply: “The greater the risks you present, the more benefits you must demonstrate.” Each response must address both halves of the risk-reward equation. You might not erase every concern, but you must leave them comfortable with your attitude. Honesty paired with confidence beats defensive explanations. In interviews, character outweighs perfection. Employers expect risk; what decides the offer is whether they believe you’ve learned enough to reduce it.


Winning the Follow-Up Interviews

If the first interview is the audition, follow-up interviews are the playoffs. Here, the competition tightens—and most candidates lose steam. Beshara warns that many treat second or third interviews like reruns of the first instead of new games with shifted dynamics. He lays out a strategy to maintain energy, manage multiple interviewers, and close decisively.

The Playoff Mentality

Getting a callback doesn’t mean you’re hired; it means you’re competing among the best. Each round exists because managers share responsibility for risk. “Corporate America involves more people in hiring not for better decisions, but to avoid blame,” Beshara jokes. Understanding this psychology helps you navigate multiple interviews. Every new conversation must reinforce confidence while securing allies who will “vote” for you internally.

Asking for Coaching

For follow-ups, always solicit help from the first interviewer: “Can you coach me about who I’ll meet next—their roles, their concerns?” This establishes partnership and earns insider insights. Then customize each subsequent conversation based on that intelligence. You might highlight technical depth with managers and cultural fit with peers. Treat follow-up interviews as targeted presentations, each built for its specific audience.

Securing Buy-In From Every Interviewer

Each interviewer—even the one who says “I’m just here as a courtesy”—can veto you. Therefore, close every meeting with direct phrases: “Do I have your support?” or “Will you recommend me to the hiring manager?” Many fear being pushy, but leaders respect assertiveness wrapped in respect. Those moments create memorable courage and help allies advocate for you in internal debates.

Keep Momentum Alive

Time is your enemy in multi-step processes. The longer the company deliberates, the likelier enthusiasm fades or budgets shift. Beshara advises frequent polite follow-ups—emails thanking interviewers, reiterating excitement, and calling for updates every few days. “Persistence equals professionalism,” he says. When candidates slow down, they vanish; when they maintain steady contact, they stay top of mind.

Success in follow-up interviews requires calibrated persistence: confident, courteous, and consistent communication. You transform from a stranger into a safe choice, and that’s exactly what hiring managers want—a decisive, energetic professional who looks like a win for everyone involved.


Clarifying Job Offers and Discussing Money

After all the interviews come the most emotionally charged moment—the offer. Beshara’s ninth chapter dismantles myths about salary discussions and reveals how professionals negotiate wisely without arrogance. His first rule: don’t assume an offer equals closure. “Almost everything can change between first contact and final contract,” he warns. Titles, duties, and pay evolve—sometimes dramatically. You must stay objective and mindful to the end.

Ask the Right Clarifying Questions

Before talking numbers, confirm fit. Schedule a final meeting and open with, “I’m excited about the opportunity, but I have a few questions to make sure I understand everything.” Then ask about expectations, culture, turnover, challenges, and measurements of success. Questions like “How will my performance be measured?” or “What happened to the last person in the role?” often reveal hidden realities. Clarity prevents regret later.

Negotiating Salary Gracefully

When numbers emerge, keep tone respectful and curious: “Is that the best you can do regarding salary?” Then pause. Silence invites improvement. If they ask why, justify with facts—previous earnings or market rate—but express mutual benefit: “My employment here will be good for both of us; I need to be sure the compensation reflects that.” This controlled assertiveness counters the common mistake of overselling or apologizing.

Handling Benefit and Bonus Discussions

Don’t negotiate isolated perks until you see the full package. Benefits vary widely, especially for small firms where costs have exploded. Instead of fighting single details, evaluate total value—insurance, bonuses, flexibility, growth potential. Once you understand the whole, you can make informed trade-offs or requests.

Keep Selling Until You Start

Even after accepting, continue communicating enthusiasm and professionalism. Offers sometimes stall or shift. By staying engaged and assuring your readiness, you maintain psychological momentum. As Beshara concludes, selling yourself doesn’t stop until day one—and sometimes not even then. Negotiate like a partner, not an adversary; speak in confident, respectful phrases that reinforce mutual success.

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